UNI Strategic Pte Ltd

Written by David Cotton on 23 June 2014

Dear all,

I just wanted to warn you all of a Singapore based company called UNI Strategic Pte Ltd. I was approached by them two or three years ago to undertake some training. I ran three courses for them - in Kuala Lumpur, Johannesburg and Singapore. The arrangement is that they pay half the fee upfront and the other half within a month of delivery. The first payments were made on time, the second a little late, the third even later. I finally undertook a piece of training for them in Bangkok last November and the post-training payment has never been made, despite great evaluations and endless correspondence with them. I should have done the due diligence work first, because it appears that they have failed to pay an enormous number of trainers. For some of the issues related by other trainers, see the following:
http://bit.ly/1yDcDCm
http://bit.ly/1roIphu
http://bit.ly/T2nept
I am making representations to a number of people in Singapore, including the government, to see if I can recover my money and to see if they are prepared to take some action against this company. Although the amount owed is not enormous, the principle remains - my contract has not been honoured and neither, it seems, have the contracts of many, many other trainers.

If you are approached by this company, do not under any circumstances agree to work for them.

Regards to all

David

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martynsloman@me.com

Submitted on 23 June, 2014 - 10:35

David

Am very sorry to hear this and thank you for bringing it to the attention of the wider community.  Have you thought of informing the Institute of Adult Learning in Singapore?  This is governmental organisation and I believe thas a strong interst in accrediting trainers.  I was a Research Fellow there some five years ago.

Singapore is well meanged and woud not wish to see any damage to its interanitonal reputation.  

All the best

Martyn

DavidCotton

Submitted on 23 June, 2014 - 21:21

Remarkably,  despite numerous emails to UNI, the thing which seems to have shaken them into action was an email I sent this morning, copying my posting here and on Trainerbase.  They claim that the payment has been made today, and have sent a bank slip confirming it.  I will certainly contact the Institute of Adult Learning - thank you, Martyn.  It will be interesting to see if the payment actually arrives in my bank account.  Meanwhile, I would still warn you all to steer well clear of this company.

regards

David

Baker Thompson ...

Submitted on 21 October, 2014 - 13:33

Hello David

As you know, I am also trying to receive an outstanding amount from UNI Strategic.  I have done 3 courses for them this year, all receiving excellent feedback, and all payments have been unacceptably late.  I am still waiting for an outstanding amount from the last session in Singapore in July.

I have been in touch with other people in the same situation and will do everything I can do recoup my money.

It is distressing and demeaning to be put in this position.

Heather

fredo12

Submitted on 13 November, 2014 - 10:13

Check whether the bank slip is genuine, show it to your bank, and see if you get any money or if it is part of Stacey's efficient run-around routine. S

ThomasLileford

Submitted on 25 June, 2014 - 09:46

Oh wow, thanks for the heads-up David. I hope the situation resolves itself. What a shame.

Thomas

Rein

Submitted on 23 October, 2014 - 15:22

New to your site, was pointed this out by a "training friend". I am too a victim of UNI, although as it apears of a lesser extend. Have been working for them for some 3 years without any issue.  Recently I have had two course' payment outstanding for two months, just got one paid this week but still one more not being paid. Indeed Stephen is playing games in that he is on this subject every day, but nothing happens. A pitty, enjoyed working for them. 

 

 

fredo12

Submitted on 13 November, 2014 - 10:10

I add my name to the list above. I ran a course for them in KL and before going they sent me what looked like a bank telegraphic transfer slip (from the Stephen you menton above). But in fact it was an internally produced document and the names on it were internal staff and directors and had nothing to do with the bank. After the course they gave me an efficient run-around for quite some time - but no money of course. They seem organised to do this and I have a growing number of names in my situation.

Alan R

Submitted on 26 January, 2015 - 15:10

I add my name to the list of the great unpaid masses. I gave a course for UNI Strategic in Kuala Lumpur in October 2014. The contract stipulated payment in 7 days. After 3 months (and many emails and an unsuccessful attempt at phoning) I remain unpaid. I just sent an email to the Singapore Commercial Affairs Department to see if they can do anything.

Have any of you who posted received payment yet? If there is a significant group of in the same situation I'm wondering if we might band together and make a joint effort at recovering our fees.

H.M.Sacher

Submitted on 20 April, 2015 - 02:27

Hi All,

I have worked for Uni Strategic for about 5 or 6 years now,  and they have normally paid me,  if sometimes a little late. In November last year 2014 I ran three workshops for them and I am still trying to get my second payment  which is now nearly 5 months late.

Any suggestions on how to get paid would be appreciated.

Regards

Monty Sacher

hmsacher@sacherassociates.com.au

DavidCotton

Submitted on 20 April, 2015 - 09:04

Hi Monty,

The only way to get your money is to give them bad press, threaten them and show that you have published damaging messages on public discussion boards, like this.  They are remarkably thick-skinned and I don't honestly know how they have survived this long, with so many people unpaid and making representations against them.  We don't believe that "Stephen" exists.  His name appears in a lot of correspondence, but we don't think he is real.  I cannot stress strongly enough that nobody should sign up to work with these people.  I have been in correspondence with a huge number of trainers who either have not been paid at all or have had to spend months writing, making representations to the Singapore Government and others to get payment.  I don't for the life of me understand why Singapore, which prides itself on its reputation as a squeaky clean place to work, tolerates this organisation.

Very best of luck in recovering your money.

David

RSL

Submitted on 24 April, 2015 - 15:39

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the info on this outfit - I was due to give a training course in KL next week and as per their standard contract, asked for 1/2 up front 7 days before the start of the course paid into my account, which of course didn't happen. I have a chain of emails from the same folk as you list above (Steven etc.)  - as well as their standard "internal" TT alleged to come from their bank (which is no mentioned by the way on the TT) so you saved me a lot of grief because if I had gone out to KL from the UK, I have no idea what costs I would have been exposed to in order to get back.

I hope to work with a reputable training company in the future as I hope there are some good guys out there....

Ken

RSL

Submitted on 25 April, 2015 - 04:48

~~I am a former employee as of 2015. This company is a fraud. they try to cheat their staff by writing the wrong payout date on salary slips. And the hr/account head ms choy foong is so unqualified and is the one who produces all the FAKE TT SLIPS. It is a miracle how they withold money from trainers hotels printer vendors and somehow when the company gets threatened is able to pay just like that.

They have created a fake person called stephen kapoor which in reality is actually mr.pervinder singh.
Do not even bother sending an email to this stephen. Instead i advise you to head on to the office or get your lawyer involved as i believe they think they can get away with it as most trainers are foreigners and there is really no way to get the police involved.

For future trainers, please make sure your requirements are 100% paid before the event and only attend if you have already receieved the money in your bank account if not i suggest you dont waste your time. They are desperate as their reputation is practically nonexistent. Do not fall for lame excuses and sweet talk and a promise of more work. I mean whats the point of working if you dont get paid.

 

chungarisk

Submitted on 21 May, 2015 - 19:17

This scam is still going on, they are now using Linked In to find new people to scam, Sorry for them that they do not keep track of who they scammed before and another person connected with me to try and scam me AGAIN!!

May 18, 2015, 11:05 AM

Deepa Nishalini has indicated you are a person they've done business with at UNI Strategic:
Hi 
I am a conference producer currently seeking for trainers to conduct a workshop on Risk Management in Dubai sometime between mid-August to early-September. 
Is the topic within your scope of expertise, and would you be interested in conducting this training for us? 
Regards, 
Deepa

Deepa Nishalini

Submitted on 17 June, 2015 - 07:44

Hi Chungarisk,

I’m Deepa, the one you mentioned about in the comment above.

I respect your state of mind as you might have had a bad experience with UNI. However, I did not approach you to SCAM you or whatsoever. I was just doing my job, which was to look for a trainer who would be able to conduct a training. However, I DO NOT WORK WITH UNI STRATEGIC ANYMORE.

Would be very helpful if you can remove the comment you have posted. There are not many Deepa Nishalini’s around, you see. I have a career to safe.

Thanks.

Regards,

Deepa

chungarisk

Submitted on 24 March, 2016 - 07:14

Great to hear that you have  moved on and are no longer associated with this scam. It is sad that people got pulled into this without knowing.

All of the best with your new career

Primila Edward

Submitted on 17 February, 2017 - 17:19

Dear chungarisk,

You should know, unfortunately Deepa has only moved to FDB Events Pte Limited, which is run by the same owners and management who ran Uni Strategic Pte Ltd.  Same guys different company name, so Deepa has not been entirely truthful here.  

I unfortunately am also a trainer who is yet to be paid by FDB Events Pte Limited as recently as Feb 2017 and I have my lawyers dealing with them now. Same guys and same unethical and unlawful business practices, just under a different company name !!  

So beware !!

 

rarnott001

Submitted on 16 July, 2015 - 11:25

I am a director of Business Management Training Group Ltd ww.bmtg.training and we too have debts with Uni-Strategic Ltd

The sad fact is that we stepped in to help them out when their trainer fell ill and they still ripped us off.

 

We have just launched court proceedings in Singapore to recover the debt .

 

We will keep you all posted as it prgresses through the court system.

 

 

 

 

eddiel

Submitted on 22 July, 2015 - 06:52

I also recieved invitations from them, they are changing their company name now to FDB this is the website http://fdb.com.sg/

Jas

Submitted on 23 July, 2015 - 16:48

Dear All,

I can also confirm that UNI Strategic Pte Ltd has tried to sneak ways around their bad reputation by creating a new business entity: FDB Production Pte Ltd. The company website is www.fdb.com.sg

This is essentially the same team of people, basically just a change of "clothes". I believe they need a new identity to continue solicit for participation on their events and go back to their list of trainers to repeat the whole cycle again.

Hope this info helps.

Regards,

Jas

Jas

Submitted on 25 July, 2015 - 18:26

Hi everyone,

I received some correspondence from others that they probably are using FDB Events Sdn Bhd in Malaysia. And probably also FDB Investment Pte Ltd. So it can be either of these FDBs.

 

stevemallaband

Submitted on 29 July, 2015 - 10:14

We are a small training company – Counterpoint Courses – and are also owed money by UNI Strategic.  We had worked with them OK for the last 18 months or so, but in May this year things took a bad turn.  We received a TT for payment shortly before we left to carry out training in Kuala Lumpur and on the strength of this carried out the assignment.  In the past TTs had always been followed up by payment, but not in this case.  We have been in touch with UNI since, and at first got hopeful emails.  Now correspondence has dried up.  Does anyone have any tips about whom to contact there, or the best way to proceed?  We will definitely pursue the recovery of our debt.
 

Jas

Submitted on 20 August, 2015 - 11:34

Hi Everyone,

You may or may not know. This UNI Strategic company, probably after reading our posts here and realised we have exposed their "FDB" cover company, is now using another "cover company".

www.greenforest.sg

Although this is a better effort to mask themselves by having a different address and limited company info, its been confirmed this is a proxy they set up to continue their business trying to hide UNI Strategic poor reputation online.

So this Green Forest company, if you do enounter them, know that its UNI Strategic.

rarnott001

Submitted on 21 August, 2015 - 10:17

Thank Jas for making people aware of the contuned duplicity of Uni-Strategic. We are submitting court papers in the next couple of weeks. We are just finalising the supporting evidence and reviewing with our legal advisors

We are in the process of compiling evidence for submission to the Singapore and Malaysian Police commercial crimes division not in relation to outstanding debt which is a civil matter but in relation to the issuing of TT's without payment and our suspicion that there is no such person as Stephen Kapoor.

We believe that the Directors of Uni-Strategic will be unable to hide behind the corporate veil given the evidence we have obtained to date

if anyone has email trails that they would wish to share please send to info@bmtg.org

 

josephinelewiski

Submitted on 5 September, 2015 - 08:50

<p>As i know this UNI Strategic (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd new office recently have moved to:<br />
<strong>Suite 9.3-9.4, Level 9, Menara Weld</strong><br />
<strong>76, Jalan Raja Chulan </strong><br />
<strong>50200 Kuala Lumpur</strong><br />
<strong>Tel:</strong>+603-2773 5555<br />
<strong>Fax:</strong>+603-2020 1925</p>

<p>hope this info is help you guy.</p>

<p>&nbsp;</p>

Primila Edward

Submitted on 17 February, 2017 - 18:07

Hi rarnott001,

I am also another trainer who has not been paid by FDB Events Ltd. and my lawyers are pursuing this with them.

Please let us know how your legal proceedings against Uni Strategic is going on, or did they settle with you ?

Many thanks.

Best,  Primila

 

 

newtonmarques@y...

Submitted on 22 September, 2015 - 05:45

<div>Thanks Jas, David and the rest of the gang,</div>

<div>For opening my eyes and allowing me to be due delligent before I was put into the trap by FDB Investments Pte Ltd in KL.</div>

<div>They have now changed their name to this from UNI-Strategic Pte Ltd. in Singapore and are now operating from Malaysia.</div>

<div>Jas,</div>

<div>You are right they have got me via Linkedin. I need to keep Linkedin informed too of this cheating/deceiving game.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div><strong><u>In short.</u></strong></div>

<div>I was contracted by them to facilitate a workshop in Dubai on the 15th and 16th of November this year for a Hazardous Materials Management workshop. I chanced upon your discussion forum whilst browsing the net to learn more about FDB Investments.</div>

<div>So, I contacted one Brandon Jeremy - he is on Linkedin too - and looks like a crook as I have seen him on Skype. I have his tele number if anyone needs it.</div>

<div>At first they said that they would pay me EUR 2000, 60 days post workshop and they would pay the money for passage and hotel stay in DXB from Perth. I didn&rsquo;t agree; I asked for half payment at the end of the workshop; they agreed.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>But after seeing your discussion forum, I wrote a new contract for 75% payment on completion of workshop. This they didn&rsquo;t agree. So, the cat was let out of the bag. I came to realize their true intentions. They were hoping to deceive me with just EUR 1000; when they would possibly make from potential candidates over EUR 30,000. How cheeky of them.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>If not for you guys like David, Jas and the rest I would have been in trouble, spent my time, energy, hard work&nbsp;and would have been in anguise eventually. Thank God it didn&rsquo;t happen.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div><u>I would like everyone to know that they are cheats and not to be trusted</u>. If you need any evidence in support of any court matter or proceedings against them,&nbsp;I am more than willing to help.</div>

<div>Such crooks should be taken to task, especially because they sneak on vulnerable people in present bad economic times.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Thanks Guys and Gals for your help,</div>

<div>Newton marques,</div>

<div>+61402251185.</div>

Leigh Cowan

Submitted on 1 October, 2015 - 08:20

I've done work for Uni and been paid - albeit some years ago.

 

I did work for another mob, Coreventus, who paid first two times around (2009/10) and then did a runner the second time around.

 

It appears these companies spend sales revenue when they're lacking profits... and trainers are an easy touch: Overseas and easily forgotten.

 

I recommmend demanding one third two weeks befor eteh evnet, up front, one third on Day 2, and third third a week after the event... UNi did this for me on 2 occassions... and all of them CAN if they want to...

 

Anything else is dangerous if not stupid...

kpj1968

Submitted on 14 October, 2015 - 15:41

Hi Guys

You may also want to be on the lookout for    www.yf-asia.com    too, another possible Uni-Strategic spin-off it would seem.

Regards

Paul

 

Darren Coleman

Submitted on 11 January, 2016 - 11:48

I've read this post with interest over the past few months. To cut a long story short my business was also owed money in a very similar way to those outlined above. 

In the end I took UNI Strategic to the Small  Claims Court of Singapore. I'm not at liberty to provide details but would encourage you all to do that. My only advice is do not seperate the amount you are owned with expenses or the registrar will only consider the amount owed. Given I flew from the UK this was unfortuate advice I was previoulsy given by the Small Claims Tribunal. But if asked, I woudl do it all again as this cannot be allowed to continue. 

 

On another note I would have to defend YF Asia. I will bring this post to the attention of the YF Team and allow them to defend themselves as well but I have delivered two sessions for them. On both occassions they paid in full prior to departure - even though the contract stated the second payment would be due at the end of the second training day. Some employees are former UNI employees but I think it is unfair, based on my experiences to date, to judge them in the same way as UNI. I now know several former UNI Strategic employees and the way that place is run is nothing short of a disgrace. 

Jas

Submitted on 6 April, 2016 - 06:58

Dear Everyone,

For benefits of trainers and also potential participant of UNI Strategic events, below is a list of domains that they buy and use for their emailing purposes. You can see how far they go to avoid associated with the original company name. May i ask for everyone in this forum, how many different domain email address do you use for your corporate work? 1, maybe 2, sometimes 3, at most 4? Check out UNI Strategic different domain emails:

Note: You may own a domain, but the domain not necessary have a live website host on it. The domain can just be used for email purposes.

globaltrainpanel.com

unitraining2u.com

greenforest.sg

unistrategicevents.com

unistrategic.com

learningunistrategic.com

fdb.com.sg

unilearningworld.com

sgunimkt.com

mbacoursestraining.com

I asked one digital marketing expert why company will create so many different domains for emails. His reply is that the main domain is blacklisted and cannot go pass spam detectors. And using another clean domain will bypass the spam detectors for the time being. But the receivers will know after a while that its all from the same company. No reputable company that use email marketing strategy, will adopt this kind of bad practices.

davidcopastin

Submitted on 25 June, 2016 - 11:03

UNI Strategic Pte Ltd, has changed name.

below is their latest website

http://greenforest.sg/index.php/event-program

Afaf

Submitted on 18 October, 2016 - 11:37

Hello everyone,

I think I have been trapped with this institution as a participant. I have registered for a course in Forensic Accounting to be delivered by Mr. Mike Mason - Director BDO UK to be held in Singapore from 13th Oct. to 14th Oct. 2016. The coordinators I have been in touch with were 2, one from Green Forest - Singapore and the other one from FDB - Singapore. I received their confirmation that 95% the event will be held in Singapore and accordingly I did all the arrangements to book the flight and hotel accommodation. When I was there I found that the event was canceled. I was shocked because I had to travel long way from Bahrain to Singapore and I was sponsored by my employer. Being there meaning that they have already lost the cost of travel and accommodation. I was worrying about the course fees that they may have deducted from the Company's credit card. Later I knew that they did not process the payment of the fees.

Being in such situation put me in a very embarrassing situation with my management. While I was there, I tried to contact the coordinators with no luck and then visited their site mentioned in their website (Green Forest website) which turned to be false address belonging to anther company. This was another shock I faced. Then, I tried again to contact one of the coordinators which happened after 2 days of chasing. She confirmed that the payment of the fees has not been processed but my other problem was that who shall bear the other costs of the trip. It was not my fault nor my Company's fault that they cancel a course in a very short notice only 3 days before the event. She offered an alternative, subject to management approval, to attend the event for free in another venue, may be this offer is just to cool me down! By the way, when I queried about their office location she said that the Head Office is in Malaysia!

Yesterday 17th Oct. 2016, I wrote a harsh e-mail to the coordinators and I hope that my problem get resolved.

Today, while I was searching their websites in Google and trying to locate the Head Office for both Green Forest and FDB, your link was one of the options which attracted my attention. I was shocked again to know about their behaviors in delaying the payments to the trainers. 

I wanted to raise the issue up to the management, but it seems that teasing / cheating and playing around is a strategy the management is following. 

I know that luckily they did not withdrawn the course fees from the Company's credit card, but the other expenses my employer has already paid shall be paid by me as long as I do not attend the course.

Do you have any advise for me?

Regards,

Afaf